Just waiting on the IMO webinar, I wonder what joys are ahead. Regarding the vaccine clinics does anyone have official guidance on pre paring vaccines for administration, i.e. getting the 6 doses ready in one go, I seem to remember it being said in one of the ICGP webinars that this was not good practice and that doses should only be drawn up immediately before administration to the patient, which is what we have been doing. What do others do and is there any link to official guidance on this question. Michael

Hi Michael We draw the vaccine when pt is in front of us. If we have got our 6 dose and think we may get a 7th dose, only then we draw the vaccine and then call the 7th patient. Kandan > On 6 Apr 2021, at 19:31, Michael Joyce <mjoyce@centrichealthblessington.ie> wrote: > >  > Just waiting on the IMO webinar, I wonder what joys are ahead. > Regarding the vaccine clinics does anyone have official guidance on pre paring vaccines for administration, i.e. getting the 6 doses ready in one go, I seem to remember it being said in one of the ICGP webinars that this was not good practice and that doses should only be drawn up immediately before administration to the patient, which is what we have been doing. What do others do and is there any link to official guidance on this question. > > Michael > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gpdiscussion mailing list -- gpdiscussion@centricgpforum.com > To unsubscribe send an email to gpdiscussion-leave@centricgpforum.com

On the ICGP webinar regarding vaccines it was said that there was no data regarding stability of the vaccine if it was predrawn - so the advice from (?niac I think) was only to draw up as we give. Sent from my iPhone > On 6 Apr 2021, at 19:59, Kandan <nasilemak1978@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Michael > We draw the vaccine when pt is in front of us. If we have got our 6 dose and think we may get a 7th dose, only then we draw the vaccine and then call the 7th patient. > > > Kandan > >>> On 6 Apr 2021, at 19:31, Michael Joyce <mjoyce@centrichealthblessington.ie> wrote: >>> >>  >> Just waiting on the IMO webinar, I wonder what joys are ahead. >> Regarding the vaccine clinics does anyone have official guidance on pre paring vaccines for administration, i.e. getting the 6 doses ready in one go, I seem to remember it being said in one of the ICGP webinars that this was not good practice and that doses should only be drawn up immediately before administration to the patient, which is what we have been doing. What do others do and is there any link to official guidance on this question. >> >> Michael >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gpdiscussion mailing list -- gpdiscussion@centricgpforum.com >> To unsubscribe send an email to gpdiscussion-leave@centricgpforum.com > _______________________________________________ > Gpdiscussion mailing list -- gpdiscussion@centricgpforum.com > To unsubscribe send an email to gpdiscussion-leave@centricgpforum.com

I understand that data would be limited but if the vaccine will be delivered within 20 minutes of being drawn up, I cannot imagine it being impacted? Would speed things up if all 6 or 7 can be drawn up in one step rather than 6 steps... Maureen Boyd On Tue 6 Apr 2021 at 19:59, Kandan <nasilemak1978@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Michael > We draw the vaccine when pt is in front of us. If we have got our 6 dose > and think we may get a 7th dose, only then we draw the vaccine and then > call the 7th patient. > > > Kandan > > On 6 Apr 2021, at 19:31, Michael Joyce <mjoyce@centrichealthblessington.ie> > wrote: > >  > > Just waiting on the IMO webinar, I wonder what joys are ahead. > > Regarding the vaccine clinics does anyone have official guidance on pre > paring vaccines for administration, i.e. getting the 6 doses ready in one > go, I seem to remember it being said in one of the ICGP webinars that this > was not good practice and that doses should only be drawn up immediately > before administration to the patient, which is what we have been doing. > What do others do and is there any link to official guidance on this > question. > > > > Michael > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gpdiscussion mailing list -- gpdiscussion@centricgpforum.com > To unsubscribe send an email to gpdiscussion-leave@centricgpforum.com > > _______________________________________________ > Gpdiscussion mailing list -- gpdiscussion@centricgpforum.com > To unsubscribe send an email to gpdiscussion-leave@centricgpforum.com >

I agree Maureen and that’s what I have been doing. I draw up 6 at a time from a new vial so I know 20mins ahead if we are getting a 7th dose out of that vial and we can ring more people if it is towards the end of the day. We were doing 16 vaccinations per hour yesterday for a team of 2 so it really doesn’t take long to get through 6..... Paul (Churchtown) ________________________________ From: Maureen Collins <maureencollins55@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 10:18:59 PM To: Centric GP Forum <gpdiscussion@centricgpforum.com> Subject: Centric GP Forum Re: Preparing vaccines in advance I understand that data would be limited but if the vaccine will be delivered within 20 minutes of being drawn up, I cannot imagine it being impacted? Would speed things up if all 6 or 7 can be drawn up in one step rather than 6 steps... Maureen Boyd On Tue 6 Apr 2021 at 19:59, Kandan <nasilemak1978@gmail.com<mailto:nasilemak1978@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Michael We draw the vaccine when pt is in front of us. If we have got our 6 dose and think we may get a 7th dose, only then we draw the vaccine and then call the 7th patient. Kandan On 6 Apr 2021, at 19:31, Michael Joyce <mjoyce@centrichealthblessington.ie<mailto:mjoyce@centrichealthblessington.ie>> wrote:  Just waiting on the IMO webinar, I wonder what joys are ahead. Regarding the vaccine clinics does anyone have official guidance on pre paring vaccines for administration, i.e. getting the 6 doses ready in one go, I seem to remember it being said in one of the ICGP webinars that this was not good practice and that doses should only be drawn up immediately before administration to the patient, which is what we have been doing. What do others do and is there any link to official guidance on this question. Michael _______________________________________________ Gpdiscussion mailing list -- gpdiscussion@centricgpforum.com<mailto:gpdiscussion@centricgpforum.com> To unsubscribe send an email to gpdiscussion-leave@centricgpforum.com<mailto:gpdiscussion-leave@centricgpforum.com> _______________________________________________ Gpdiscussion mailing list -- gpdiscussion@centricgpforum.com<mailto:gpdiscussion@centricgpforum.com> To unsubscribe send an email to gpdiscussion-leave@centricgpforum.com<mailto:gpdiscussion-leave@centricgpforum.com>