Sorry. 40 euros for dna swab and 50 euros for drug and alcohol testing. Summit Dna will pay the practice once they receive the sample.
K

You would have to be very kind to test for those prices.
By the time you have counselled taken the swab you will have used up 15
minutes .
Unless there is a very

On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 14:36, Kandan nasilemak1978@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Ernan
From what I gather, we don’t counsel. We just do the swab
K

Not a lot for your time and expertise.

On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 18:41, Kandan nasilemak1978@gmail.com wrote:

I will be back to them about who can do it.  Can my PCA do it or nurses?is there any training?
K

Hi Kandan et al,

If your nurse or PCA can do it and ….
There is NO need of an input from you
There is no great training need involved
It is not simply cannibalising existing business
And you have the spare capacity

I might look at it.

My reasoning being that – we charge €35 for a nurse done blood test and that invariably has then to be assessed by a doctor when the result comes in.

If you can get € 5 more for a ‘fire and forget’ procedure that doesn’t involve you, then it may make sense.

I know this is not strictly an Occ Med question, but I know there are lots of Docs within Centric who have an interest, and it is good to see us coming together and discussing things.  We have the makings of a handy little pan-country OH network.

Keith

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From: Ernan Gallagher ernang3@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday 15 June 2022 18:43
To: Centric GP Forum gpdiscussion@centricgpforum.com
Subject: Centric GP Forum Re: Summit DNA

Not a lot for your time and expertise.

On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 18:41, Kandan <nasilemak1978@gmail.commailto:nasilemak1978@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Ernan
From what I gather, we don’t counsel. We just do the swab
K

On 15 Jun 2022, at 16:46, Ernan Gallagher <ernang3@gmail.commailto:ernang3@gmail.com> wrote:

You would have to be very kind to test for those prices.
By the time you have counselled taken the swab you will have used up 15 minutes .
Unless there is a very

On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 14:36, Kandan <nasilemak1978@gmail.commailto:nasilemak1978@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry. 40 euros for dna swab and 50 euros for drug and alcohol testing. Summit Dna will pay the practice once they receive the sample.
K

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“ Summit Dna will pay the practice once they receive the sample.”

I would suggest asking them to pay when making appointments
We do a few Employment Med and DNAs annoying as appointments tight and lost income = we are starting to ask companies to prepay for this type of work

Gavin Maguire

On 21 Jun 2022, at 09:01, Keith Perdue keith.perdue@centrichealth.ie wrote:


Hi Kandan et al,

If your nurse or PCA can do it and ….
There is NO need of an input from you
There is no great training need involved
It is not simply cannibalising existing business
And you have the spare capacity

I might look at it.

My reasoning being that – we charge €35 for a nurse done blood test and that invariably has then to be assessed by a doctor when the result comes in.

If you can get € 5 more for a ‘fire and forget’ procedure that doesn’t involve you, then it may make sense.

I know this is not strictly an Occ Med question, but I know there are lots of Docs within Centric who have an interest, and it is good to see us coming together and discussing things.  We have the makings of a handy little pan-country OH network.

Keith

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From: Ernan Gallagher ernang3@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday 15 June 2022 18:43
To: Centric GP Forum gpdiscussion@centricgpforum.com
Subject: Centric GP Forum Re: Summit DNA

Not a lot for your time and expertise.

On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 18:41, Kandan <nasilemak1978@gmail.commailto:nasilemak1978@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Ernan
From what I gather, we don’t counsel. We just do the swab
K

On 15 Jun 2022, at 16:46, Ernan Gallagher <ernang3@gmail.commailto:ernang3@gmail.com> wrote:

You would have to be very kind to test for those prices.
By the time you have counselled taken the swab you will have used up 15 minutes .
Unless there is a very

On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 14:36, Kandan <nasilemak1978@gmail.commailto:nasilemak1978@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry. 40 euros for dna swab and 50 euros for drug and alcohol testing. Summit Dna will pay the practice once they receive the sample.
K

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I have put it back to them about the DNA and cancellation rate.
I asked them about PCA doing it and if they need training g or not. I asked them to consider revising their rates and let see what happens.
K